Message text written by Todd Day >My overall impression is that the third edition is a tad too dark. I am curious to others opinions. < Todd, This was the type of input I was hoping for. I thought that the extra black just brought out each individual feather more. And sadly, I see there is still no ink that can do justice to a Indigo Bunting ,Vermilion Flycatcher or even a Redwinged Blackbird.<g> What do you(or anyone else out there) think of the Empid pages? Improvement or no? I'm no Empid guru but they certainly are different. Another thing I was curious about is why they would change the order of the birds. It's going to take me a while to get used to the vireos being 60 pages ahead of the warblers now. Barb Meserve skiptech@compuserve.com