Record's Committee Stuff

Darius Ecker (dariuse@abs.net)
Sat, 21 Feb 1998 07:50:37 -0500


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Phil,

I must admit, I was feeling just like Norm.  The initial message written =
by Mary G. certainly gave us the impression she was on the Record's =
Committee by her declaration, and that's how the Record's Committee got =
dragged in. Lot's of our reactions probably go back to that original =
message.

I'd like to follow up with another question.  Harvey's message he posted =
was great, but I seem to have lost it already in with the masses of =
email on my computer.  Did Harvey mention the answers to these questions =
?  If he did, I'd love it if someone could resend Harvey's message to =
me.  If not, perhaps someone on the committee can post the answers ?   =20

1. How are people selected to serve on the Records Committee ?

2. Is there a mechanism for removing them ?

3. Are members of the committee excluded from voting on their own =
sightings ?

Norm, I have submitted records to the MD/DC Records Committee and I've =
found it to be a painless process.  The committee takes a long time to =
respond, so you tend to forget about what you've submitted.  But that's =
ok, careful is better.

Good Birding,

Darius Ecker (dariuse@abs.net)

Columbia, Maryland



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From: 	Phil Davis[SMTP:pdavis@ix.netcom.com]
Sent: 	Saturday, February 21, 1998 12:20 AM
To: 	mdosprey@ARI.Net
Subject: 	Re: It is a common gull

Jeez ...

I've got to jump in here ... Norm, you are off base.  Do not confuse the
"MD/DC Records Committee" with individuals who may nor may not be =
current
or past members of the committee.  This is America ... any person is
entitled to express his/her opinion.  The Committee, however, only =
speaks
through its deliberative process.  The message that "set you off" does =
not
even contain the phrase "records committee".  Furthermore, it appears to =
be
a debate  between two people, neither of which are current members of =
the
committee.

The committee, as Harvey stated in his message of a few days ago, has =
not
even received a submission of a putative Common Gull, much less =
deliberated
and arrived at a decision. =20

Please do not add more fuel to this fire.  Please leave the records
committee out of this discussion.


Phil Davis
Secretary, MD/DC Records Committee



At 11:13 PM 02/20/1998 -0500, you wrote:

	(snip)

>I feel I've learned a tremendous amount during this discussion about=20
>looking critically at a bird, about defining the parameters of the=20
>research that must be carried out, and about presenting one's opinion=20
>to the powers that be--the records committee.
>
>Is Bruce Peterjohn's personal attack on Mark Hoffman typical of the=20
>way that such submissions are handled by the MD/DC Records Committee?
>If so, I can see why you may have trouble getting people to submit=20
>their thoughts to you.
>
	(snip)
>
>I've never submitted any notes to the records committee...after=20
>hearing how they're received, how responses to opinions become=20
>personal vendettas, I probably never will.

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