------ =_NextPart_000_01BD3E9D.90ABAEC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Phil, I must admit, I was feeling just like Norm. The initial message written = by Mary G. certainly gave us the impression she was on the Record's = Committee by her declaration, and that's how the Record's Committee got = dragged in. Lot's of our reactions probably go back to that original = message. I'd like to follow up with another question. Harvey's message he posted = was great, but I seem to have lost it already in with the masses of = email on my computer. Did Harvey mention the answers to these questions = ? If he did, I'd love it if someone could resend Harvey's message to = me. If not, perhaps someone on the committee can post the answers ? =20 1. How are people selected to serve on the Records Committee ? 2. Is there a mechanism for removing them ? 3. Are members of the committee excluded from voting on their own = sightings ? Norm, I have submitted records to the MD/DC Records Committee and I've = found it to be a painless process. The committee takes a long time to = respond, so you tend to forget about what you've submitted. But that's = ok, careful is better. Good Birding, Darius Ecker (dariuse@abs.net) Columbia, Maryland ---------- From: Phil Davis[SMTP:pdavis@ix.netcom.com] Sent: Saturday, February 21, 1998 12:20 AM To: mdosprey@ARI.Net Subject: Re: It is a common gull Jeez ... I've got to jump in here ... Norm, you are off base. Do not confuse the "MD/DC Records Committee" with individuals who may nor may not be = current or past members of the committee. This is America ... any person is entitled to express his/her opinion. The Committee, however, only = speaks through its deliberative process. The message that "set you off" does = not even contain the phrase "records committee". Furthermore, it appears to = be a debate between two people, neither of which are current members of = the committee. The committee, as Harvey stated in his message of a few days ago, has = not even received a submission of a putative Common Gull, much less = deliberated and arrived at a decision. =20 Please do not add more fuel to this fire. Please leave the records committee out of this discussion. Phil Davis Secretary, MD/DC Records Committee At 11:13 PM 02/20/1998 -0500, you wrote: (snip) >I feel I've learned a tremendous amount during this discussion about=20 >looking critically at a bird, about defining the parameters of the=20 >research that must be carried out, and about presenting one's opinion=20 >to the powers that be--the records committee. > >Is Bruce Peterjohn's personal attack on Mark Hoffman typical of the=20 >way that such submissions are handled by the MD/DC Records Committee? >If so, I can see why you may have trouble getting people to submit=20 >their thoughts to you. > (snip) > >I've never submitted any notes to the records committee...after=20 >hearing how they're received, how responses to opinions become=20 >personal vendettas, I probably never will. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Phil Davis home: PDavis@ix.netcom.com Davidsonville, Maryland 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